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Hi,

The current setup is

1 CDROM
1 CDRW
1 20Gb HDD (5400) [NTFS] O/S
1 80Gb HDD (5400) [NTFS]
1 Floppy

Mobbo: A7N8X Deluxe 2.0
Windows XP Pro (SP1)

I have Ghost 2003 so supports NTFS.

I'd like to add 2 additional drives:

1 30Gb HDD (7200) *O/S
1 120Gb HDD (7200)

And use the 30Gb as the O/S.

I've heard issues about whether the new O/S HDD will retain C:\ as it's
assignment or not, if not, causing problems... will Ghost be able to rectify
this for me?

I'd just like to clarify a method before I start, too, ideally I'd like
to keep the new HDD's (30Gb and the 120Gb) on the Mobbo IDE slots, and put
the old ones on the card.

Thanks in Advance,

T.

Your a bit confused. When you add a drive (or partition), it gets
assigned a new letter. It goes by the physical drive, then next
physical, then goes back and does all the partitions of the 1st drive,
then the next drive, and so on. (1st IDE controller (or SATA) and
channel 1 = C: (master) Channel 2 = slave D: ..and so on )

Now, what you should do is ghost your 20 onto the 30GB drive. You can
unplug the cdrom or cdrw or the other hd, and stick it on there. For a
temp solution, or if you have another controller card (or built in)
then just use that, don't have to unplug the other stuff.

Anyway, after the cloning, then you must remove the 20GB drive, and
replace it with the 30GB drive. Then you can have the 20GB as
whatever else.

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Thanks, NAME,

So what you're saying is, I just add the 30GB onto my new IDE card when I
get it, clone the C:\ onto that (IN WINDOWS) and then swap them over, after
which the system will boot from the new 30gb, and I can format the old C:\
in windows?

I hope that is what yer saying coz it sounds very easy and I was expecting
trouble!!

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PS What must I do to the master slave jumpers on the respective drives?!

Make a Win98 boot floppy (or download one from the net)

Make a Ghost floppy

Draw a diagram for yourself showing all of your drives, which cables they
are plugged into, whether they are on the middle or end connector of the
cable, and whether they are master or slave.

Remove everything from the cables except your 20GB drive. Plug the new 30GB
drive in on the other cable. (buy another 80wire cable if you only have one)

Boot from the Win98 boot floppy to the DOS prompt. Put the Ghost floppy in.
Type GHOST or GHOSTPE depending on what version you have (to start up
ghost).

Use the "Disk To Disk" option to copy the entire 20GB drive to the 30GB
drive. When its finished, turn the PC off.

Change the jumper on the new 30GB drive to match the old 20GB drive (if the
old was master, make the new drive master).

Remove both drives from the cables and put them aside for now.

Now use the same procedure to copy the old 80GB drive to the new 120GB
drive. (remember to jumper the new 120Gb to match the old 80GB drive).

Now remove all the drives from the cables.

Using your diagram, reassemble the PC putting the new drives in place of the
old drives. Leave the old drives aside for now. Boot up and make sure
everything appears to be working.

Once you are sure everything has copied to the new drives, you can clear the
old ones. If you plug the old drives in, depending on your bios options
there is a chance the PC could boot up off the old drives. For this reason,
I'd recommend running Partition Magic from a floppy or a tool from the drive
manufacturer to make sure you erase the correct partitions/drives.




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Hi John,

It seems basically you're suggesting I do the copy from the 20 to the 30 in
Dos, whereas I think another person suggested I do it in Windows, then
change the drives over, and format the old 20gb in windows.

If this is possible, surely it is the easiest alternative?!

Otherwise thanks very much for your help, it's just i'm a little unfarmiliar
with DOS!!

Rob.

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Could you just Ghost (restore) the operating system to another drive, then
use FDISK and make the new drive active?

Joltjocky

I'm suggesting DOS because I believe there is less chance of your making an
error (no virtual partitions created by ghost etc). I used DOS every day for
this sort of thing. You don't need to know any DOS. Just put the DOS boot
floppy into the floppy drive, boot up the PC, and tell it to go the DOS
prompt (if it asks). Once you are at the DOS prompt type:


A:GHOST (type A:GHOSTPE if you use Ghost Personal Edition)


Once you do that you will be inside Ghost's menu driven environment. Once
you exit from ghost, you will be back at the DOS prompt (A:\> or
C:\>). At this point you can turn the PC off.

Once you clone the drives, if you connect all of the drives and boot into
windows you are going to have 2 copies of every partition in MyComputer.
Then you have to decide which is the correct one to erase. That's why I
suggested using PartitionMagic to erase the drives from the DOS prompt (I
think it's harder for you to make a mistake). Also if you connect all of the
drives and boot into windows, which drive will it boot off? - it might boot
off the old 20GB drive (depending on what options are set in the bios).
That's why I'm saying use PartitionMagic from the DOS prompt. It puts YOU in
control.

Someone with as many drives as you have is going to find PartitionMagic very
useful for renaming and resizing your partitions. You could do it some other
way (eg. maybe FDISK ???? or some tool from the hard drive manufacturer) ,
but I wouldn't know how because I use Partition Magic.





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No, you can't do it in windows. I said to use GHOST (which runs in
DOS) and clone your 20GB onto the 30GB.



On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:05:58 +0100, "Rob"
<rob2113@anntorevertal.co.za> wrote:

No, you CAN'T do it in windows. Only in Dos, and ONLY with ghost (or
drive image, or the util that ships with the new HD)

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:33:13 +0100, "Rob"
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